Sacha Herrmann, CFO at Soldo: “Technical accounting knowledge still absolutely matters”

How many legacy systems are you still running? This is just one of the thought-provoking questions Sacha Herrmann raises in our interview, the third in our “That Won’t Pass Audit” series with thought leaders in fintech, and with over 20 years of experience in this space Sacha has a lot to say.

Prior to his current role as CFO at Soldo, Sacha held strategic leadership positions at high-growth companies such as Codility and Nexthink. His mantra: to build finance functions that are commercially rigorous and operationally agile. He’s a strong advocate for using AI and digital tools to deliver real impact, not just hype.

And good news for any CFOs reading this. Sacha wants to help you move beyond reporting and into a strategic position, particularly in areas like ESG and automation where he believes the CFO is central to driving and integrating strategy.

So, to go back to that opening question, do you know how many legacy systems you’re running? Could they be both costing you money and holding you back from embracing the latest technology? Read on to discover Sacha’s insights on this and much more.

How has the role of the finance function changed in the last three to five years, and what do you think most organisations still underestimate about that shift?โ€ฏย 

It should come as no surpriseย thatย Iโ€™llโ€ฏpoint to AI adoption as the biggest changepoint for the finance function in the last three to five years. AI is accelerating the move to more sophisticated, digital-first processes. As a result, stakeholders now expect finance to be faster, more seamless and more automated. Finance teams that are embracing these tools across their stack are clawing back hours that would otherwise be spent on essential but manual admin. That time is increasingly being reinvested into forecasting, scenario planning and strategy,โ€ฏwhich is exactly where the function creates disproportionate value.โ€ฏย 

But whileโ€ฏprogress has been strong,โ€ฏI think many organisations still underestimate two things. First,โ€ฏhow manyโ€ฏlegacy systemsโ€ฏtheyโ€™reโ€ฏstill runningโ€ฏandโ€ฏhow muchโ€ฏthose fragmented tools limit real-time visibility and decision-making. Second, the scale of new risk that comes with digitisation, especially AI-powered fraud.โ€ฏWeโ€™reโ€ฏseeing the industry wake up to that threatโ€ฏwithโ€ฏ74% of UKโ€ฏfinance leadersโ€ฏadmitting theyโ€™re concerned about employees using AI to generate fraudulent financial documents and receipts,โ€ฏbut the mistake would be trying to tackle modern fraud with outdated processes.โ€ฏย 

This is why financeโ€™s evolution is as much about governanceโ€ฏandโ€ฏculture as technology. Embedding proactive controls into workflows, building trust and accountability, and modernising the foundations so finance can move quickly without losing control, is critical.ย 

Which accounting or finance processes are still far more manual than they should be, andโ€ฏwhatโ€™sโ€ฏstopping teams from automating them?โ€ฏย 

The way many organisations manage spend is still far more manual than it should be, andโ€ฏitโ€™sโ€ฏone of the clearest areas where finance loses time and often visibility.โ€ฏIn many ways,โ€ฏthe caution isโ€ฏunderstandable. Spend managementโ€ฏisโ€ฏclosely tied to compliance, governance and oversight, soโ€ฏautomation can be perceivedโ€ฏasโ€ฏโ€œletting go” of the reins.โ€ฏโ€ฏย 

But automation in spend managementโ€ฏshouldnโ€™tโ€ฏmean surrendering control,โ€ฏit should mean building better control. When controls are proactive and embedded, approvals can move faster, policies can be applied consistently, and finance can reduce reliance on retrospective checks that create bottlenecks and blind spots. This matters even moreโ€ฏnow, becauseโ€ฏthe risk landscape is changing. AI is making fraud more scalable and more convincing, which means manual checks and disconnected systems are increasingly easy to bypass.โ€ฏย 

A more modern approach ties every digital payment directly to an expense report,โ€ฏso it is automatically tagged, fully traceable and fully visible. In practice, thatโ€™s โ€œusing AI to fight AIโ€โ€ฏโ€“ tools that can flag anomalies in real-time, reduce human error, and help prevent fraud whileโ€ฏmaintainingโ€ฏclear audit trails.โ€ฏย 

The shiftโ€ฏrequiredโ€ฏis partly technical, but also cultural.โ€ฏReframing automationโ€ฏas a way to maintain governance whileโ€ฏunlockingโ€ฏagility andโ€ฏgrowth will be key, and as teams see sustained benefits, Iโ€™d expect resistance toโ€ฏlessen.ย 

How is finance collaborating with other parts of the business – such as IT, operations, or marketing – and where does friction still exist?โ€ฏย 

Collaboration between finance and the rest of the business has grownโ€ฏsignificantly in recentโ€ฏyears. As organisations have become more digital and data-led, finance teams are increasingly working side by side with IT,โ€ฏoperationsโ€ฏand commercial teams to shape how money flows through the business. By setting clear guardrails around budgets and improving spend visibility, finance can help teams make faster and more informed decisions without compromising control.โ€ฏโ€ฏย 

You can see the benefits most clearly in areas like marketing and operations, where speed and flexibility matter. Financeโ€ฏcan enable these functions with clearer frameworks, better tooling and more real-timeโ€ฏinsight, so teams arenโ€™t constantly delayed by approvals or manual workarounds.โ€ฏWhen that balance is right, it creates shared accountability rather thanโ€ฏan โ€œus versus themโ€โ€ฏdynamic.โ€ฏย 

But friction still emerges where processes havenโ€™t kept pace with expectations. Legacy systems, fragmented tools and manual approvalsโ€ฏslow collaboration and create frustration,โ€ฏespecially when teams are under pressure to move quickly.โ€ฏThat friction has tangible consequences. Soldo research showed that 88% of UK finance leaders report missed growth opportunities when employees lack direct access to budgets, while 48% of employees say interactions with finance have slowed projects. In these situations, finance teams often shoulder the blame for stalled activity, despite managing significant risk.โ€ฏโ€ฏย 

Closing that gap relies on modernising systems and decentralising spend responsibly. With clear guardrails, better budget access can strengthen relationships across the business, something 36% of finance leaders and 22% of employees believe would improve collaboration, allowing finance to act as a true strategic partner rather than a bottleneck.ย 

How do you balance speed and automation with control, auditability and regulatory compliance?โ€ฏโ€ฏย 

Balancing speed and automation with control and compliance starts with acknowledging that traditional governance models are no longer fit for purpose. Asย finance teams adopt AI and automation to move faster, relying on manual, retrospective checks can create bottlenecks. And in an AI-driven risk environment, those checks can also createโ€ฏblind spots. The challenge for finance leaders isnโ€™t choosing between speed andโ€ฏcontrol, but choosing tools and governance models that let the twoโ€ฏcoexist.โ€ฏย 

Aโ€ฏstrong starting point is shifting towardsโ€ฏproactive, embedded controls. Intelligent tools can flag anomalies in real-time, enforce pre-approvedโ€ฏbudgetsโ€ฏand reduce reliance on after-the-fact reviews. This strengthens auditability and fraud prevention whileโ€ฏallowing teams to operate with agility,โ€ฏwithout constantly escalating routine decisions.โ€ฏย 

This is increasingly important as AI-powered fraud becomes more convincing and scalable. Preventing AI-driven expense fraud, for example, requires a more connected approach where every digital payment is tied directly to an expense report,โ€ฏautomatically tagged, fully traceable and fully visible. That helps improveโ€ฏconfidence and control while giving employees clarity when making work-related purchases.โ€ฏ 

Butโ€ฏtechnology alone isnโ€™t enough.โ€ฏFinance leaders also need to drive a cultural shift in how governance is perceived. When controls are overly centralised and admin-heavy, they slow teams down and encourage workarounds. When theyโ€™re embedded into workflows and paired with clear guardrails, governance becomes an enabler.โ€ฏย 

Regulation adds another layer, and itโ€™s evolving quickly. Firms that invest early in transparent, well-defined governance frameworks will be better positioned to adapt,โ€ฏnot just to tick compliance boxes, but to build trust and a foundation for sustainable growth.โ€ฏย 

What skills do modern accountants and finance professionals need today thatโ€ฏwerenโ€™tโ€ฏessential five or ten years ago?โ€ฏย 

As much as new tools are easing manual burdens, technical accounting knowledge still absolutely matters. Without it, thereโ€™s no way to applyโ€ฏquality control and oversight to work that is being automated.โ€ฏWhatโ€™sโ€ฏchanged is that those technical foundations now sit alongside aโ€ฏbroader set of capabilities.โ€ฏย 

First, finance professionals need greater data fluency and confidence with digital tools.โ€ฏAs AI becomes part of everydayโ€ฏoperations,โ€ฏteams mustโ€ฏbe comfortable using newโ€ฏplatforms, understand what the data is telling them,โ€ฏand know when toโ€ฏchallenge outputs. The value isnโ€™t in simply producing reports faster. Itโ€™s in using real-time insights to spot financial drains, identify growth opportunities and improve forecasting.โ€ฏย 

Second, the role is becoming more cross-functional. With more spend responsibility being pushed closer to the business, finance teams need to be able to explain guardrails clearly, support better decision-making and help colleagues navigate financial policies with confidence. This isย where communication and influence become critical. Financeโ€ฏhas to be able to enable autonomy without losing oversight.โ€ฏย 

Finally,โ€ฏgovernance thinking has become more important,โ€ฏespecially as risk evolves. AI is raising the stakes on fraudโ€ฏandโ€ฏcompliance, so professionals need a stronger grasp of controls, auditability and how to embed governance into workflows. The combination of strategic mindset, practical tech literacy and clear communication is what will define high-performing finance teams today.ย 

What advice would you give to finance leaders who are under pressure to โ€˜digitiseโ€™ but lack internal buy-in or technical resources?โ€ฏย 

For finance leaders without strong internal buy-in orโ€ฏdeepโ€ฏtechnicalโ€ฏresources, the first step isโ€ฏreframing whatโ€ฏโ€œdigitisingโ€โ€ฏactually means.โ€ฏItโ€ฏisnโ€™tโ€ฏabout rolling out shiny tools for the sake of it,โ€ฏitโ€™sโ€ฏabout curating a tech stack that supports clear business objectives, strengthens governance and frees teams to focus on higher-value work.โ€ฏย 

To build momentum, targetโ€ฏa single, well-understood process that causes delay and unnecessary manual effort.โ€ฏSpend management is often a good place to start.โ€ฏWhen colleagues seeโ€ฏthat approvals are faster, policies are clearer,โ€ฏand decisionsโ€ฏareโ€ฏeasier to make, resistance tends to soften naturally. Itโ€™s also an area where the benefits are immediate, for example, better visibility, fewer workarounds and more consistent control.โ€ฏย 

Itโ€™sโ€ฏworth being explicit that modernisation is now a competitive imperative. Legacy systems simplyโ€ฏarenโ€™tโ€ฏdesigned to keep up with the pace of modern financial operations and trying to manage modern risks with outdated processes is where organisations get exposed. AI-powered fraud is a good exampleโ€ฏwhere finance teams need proactive controls and connected workflows, not retrospective manual checks.โ€ฏ 

Progress also depends on how change is led. Clear communication, realistic expectations and a willingness to listen are as important as any platform decision. Digitisation works best whenโ€ฏpositioned as practical support for people,โ€ฏenabling trust and autonomy within clear guardrails,โ€ฏrather thanโ€ฏa disruptive overhaul imposed from the centre.โ€ฏThatโ€™sโ€ฏhow you create sustainable buy-in, even with limited technical depth.

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Tim Danton

Tim has worked in IT publishing since the days when all PCs were beige, and is editor-in-chief of the UK's PC Pro magazine. He has been writing about hardware for TechFinitive since 2023.