How many legacy systems are you still running? This is just one of the thought-provoking questions Sacha Herrmann raises in our interview, the third in our “That Won’t Pass Audit” series with thought leaders in fintech, and with over 20 years of experience in this space Sacha has a lot to say.
Prior to his current role as CFO at Soldo, Sacha held strategic leadership positions at high-growth companies such as Codility and Nexthink. His mantra: to build finance functions that are commercially rigorous and operationally agile. He’s a strong advocate for using AI and digital tools to deliver real impact, not just hype.
And good news for any CFOs reading this. Sacha wants to help you move beyond reporting and into a strategic position, particularly in areas like ESG and automation where he believes the CFO is central to driving and integrating strategy.
So, to go back to that opening question, do you know how many legacy systems you’re running? Could they be both costing you money and holding you back from embracing the latest technology? Read on to discover Sacha’s insights on this and much more.
How has the role of the finance function changed in the last three to five years, and what do you think most organisations still underestimate about that shift?โฏย
It should come as no surpriseย thatย Iโllโฏpoint to AI adoption as the biggest changepoint for the finance function in the last three to five years. AI is accelerating the move to more sophisticated, digital-first processes. As a result, stakeholders now expect finance to be faster, more seamless and more automated. Finance teams that are embracing these tools across their stack are clawing back hours that would otherwise be spent on essential but manual admin. That time is increasingly being reinvested into forecasting, scenario planning and strategy,โฏwhich is exactly where the function creates disproportionate value.โฏย
But whileโฏprogress has been strong,โฏI think many organisations still underestimate two things. First,โฏhow manyโฏlegacy systemsโฏtheyโreโฏstill runningโฏandโฏhow muchโฏthose fragmented tools limit real-time visibility and decision-making. Second, the scale of new risk that comes with digitisation, especially AI-powered fraud.โฏWeโreโฏseeing the industry wake up to that threatโฏwithโฏ74% of UKโฏfinance leadersโฏadmitting theyโre concerned about employees using AI to generate fraudulent financial documents and receipts,โฏbut the mistake would be trying to tackle modern fraud with outdated processes.โฏย
This is why financeโs evolution is as much about governanceโฏandโฏculture as technology. Embedding proactive controls into workflows, building trust and accountability, and modernising the foundations so finance can move quickly without losing control, is critical.ย
Which accounting or finance processes are still far more manual than they should be, andโฏwhatโsโฏstopping teams from automating them?โฏย
The way many organisations manage spend is still far more manual than it should be, andโฏitโsโฏone of the clearest areas where finance loses time and often visibility.โฏIn many ways,โฏthe caution isโฏunderstandable. Spend managementโฏisโฏclosely tied to compliance, governance and oversight, soโฏautomation can be perceivedโฏasโฏโletting go” of the reins.โฏโฏย
But automation in spend managementโฏshouldnโtโฏmean surrendering control,โฏit should mean building better control. When controls are proactive and embedded, approvals can move faster, policies can be applied consistently, and finance can reduce reliance on retrospective checks that create bottlenecks and blind spots. This matters even moreโฏnow, becauseโฏthe risk landscape is changing. AI is making fraud more scalable and more convincing, which means manual checks and disconnected systems are increasingly easy to bypass.โฏย
A more modern approach ties every digital payment directly to an expense report,โฏso it is automatically tagged, fully traceable and fully visible. In practice, thatโs โusing AI to fight AIโโฏโ tools that can flag anomalies in real-time, reduce human error, and help prevent fraud whileโฏmaintainingโฏclear audit trails.โฏย
The shiftโฏrequiredโฏis partly technical, but also cultural.โฏReframing automationโฏas a way to maintain governance whileโฏunlockingโฏagility andโฏgrowth will be key, and as teams see sustained benefits, Iโd expect resistance toโฏlessen.ย
How is finance collaborating with other parts of the business – such as IT, operations, or marketing – and where does friction still exist?โฏย
Collaboration between finance and the rest of the business has grownโฏsignificantly in recentโฏyears. As organisations have become more digital and data-led, finance teams are increasingly working side by side with IT,โฏoperationsโฏand commercial teams to shape how money flows through the business. By setting clear guardrails around budgets and improving spend visibility, finance can help teams make faster and more informed decisions without compromising control.โฏโฏย
You can see the benefits most clearly in areas like marketing and operations, where speed and flexibility matter. Financeโฏcan enable these functions with clearer frameworks, better tooling and more real-timeโฏinsight, so teams arenโt constantly delayed by approvals or manual workarounds.โฏWhen that balance is right, it creates shared accountability rather thanโฏan โus versus themโโฏdynamic.โฏย
But friction still emerges where processes havenโt kept pace with expectations. Legacy systems, fragmented tools and manual approvalsโฏslow collaboration and create frustration,โฏespecially when teams are under pressure to move quickly.โฏThat friction has tangible consequences. Soldo research showed that 88% of UK finance leaders report missed growth opportunities when employees lack direct access to budgets, while 48% of employees say interactions with finance have slowed projects. In these situations, finance teams often shoulder the blame for stalled activity, despite managing significant risk.โฏโฏย
Closing that gap relies on modernising systems and decentralising spend responsibly. With clear guardrails, better budget access can strengthen relationships across the business, something 36% of finance leaders and 22% of employees believe would improve collaboration, allowing finance to act as a true strategic partner rather than a bottleneck.ย
How do you balance speed and automation with control, auditability and regulatory compliance?โฏโฏย
Balancing speed and automation with control and compliance starts with acknowledging that traditional governance models are no longer fit for purpose. Asย finance teams adopt AI and automation to move faster, relying on manual, retrospective checks can create bottlenecks. And in an AI-driven risk environment, those checks can also createโฏblind spots. The challenge for finance leaders isnโt choosing between speed andโฏcontrol, but choosing tools and governance models that let the twoโฏcoexist.โฏย
Aโฏstrong starting point is shifting towardsโฏproactive, embedded controls. Intelligent tools can flag anomalies in real-time, enforce pre-approvedโฏbudgetsโฏand reduce reliance on after-the-fact reviews. This strengthens auditability and fraud prevention whileโฏallowing teams to operate with agility,โฏwithout constantly escalating routine decisions.โฏย
This is increasingly important as AI-powered fraud becomes more convincing and scalable. Preventing AI-driven expense fraud, for example, requires a more connected approach where every digital payment is tied directly to an expense report,โฏautomatically tagged, fully traceable and fully visible. That helps improveโฏconfidence and control while giving employees clarity when making work-related purchases.โฏ
Butโฏtechnology alone isnโt enough.โฏFinance leaders also need to drive a cultural shift in how governance is perceived. When controls are overly centralised and admin-heavy, they slow teams down and encourage workarounds. When theyโre embedded into workflows and paired with clear guardrails, governance becomes an enabler.โฏย
Regulation adds another layer, and itโs evolving quickly. Firms that invest early in transparent, well-defined governance frameworks will be better positioned to adapt,โฏnot just to tick compliance boxes, but to build trust and a foundation for sustainable growth.โฏย
What skills do modern accountants and finance professionals need today thatโฏwerenโtโฏessential five or ten years ago?โฏย
As much as new tools are easing manual burdens, technical accounting knowledge still absolutely matters. Without it, thereโs no way to applyโฏquality control and oversight to work that is being automated.โฏWhatโsโฏchanged is that those technical foundations now sit alongside aโฏbroader set of capabilities.โฏย
First, finance professionals need greater data fluency and confidence with digital tools.โฏAs AI becomes part of everydayโฏoperations,โฏteams mustโฏbe comfortable using newโฏplatforms, understand what the data is telling them,โฏand know when toโฏchallenge outputs. The value isnโt in simply producing reports faster. Itโs in using real-time insights to spot financial drains, identify growth opportunities and improve forecasting.โฏย
Second, the role is becoming more cross-functional. With more spend responsibility being pushed closer to the business, finance teams need to be able to explain guardrails clearly, support better decision-making and help colleagues navigate financial policies with confidence. This isย where communication and influence become critical. Financeโฏhas to be able to enable autonomy without losing oversight.โฏย
Finally,โฏgovernance thinking has become more important,โฏespecially as risk evolves. AI is raising the stakes on fraudโฏandโฏcompliance, so professionals need a stronger grasp of controls, auditability and how to embed governance into workflows. The combination of strategic mindset, practical tech literacy and clear communication is what will define high-performing finance teams today.ย
What advice would you give to finance leaders who are under pressure to โdigitiseโ but lack internal buy-in or technical resources?โฏย
For finance leaders without strong internal buy-in orโฏdeepโฏtechnicalโฏresources, the first step isโฏreframing whatโฏโdigitisingโโฏactually means.โฏItโฏisnโtโฏabout rolling out shiny tools for the sake of it,โฏitโsโฏabout curating a tech stack that supports clear business objectives, strengthens governance and frees teams to focus on higher-value work.โฏย
To build momentum, targetโฏa single, well-understood process that causes delay and unnecessary manual effort.โฏSpend management is often a good place to start.โฏWhen colleagues seeโฏthat approvals are faster, policies are clearer,โฏand decisionsโฏareโฏeasier to make, resistance tends to soften naturally. Itโs also an area where the benefits are immediate, for example, better visibility, fewer workarounds and more consistent control.โฏย
Itโsโฏworth being explicit that modernisation is now a competitive imperative. Legacy systems simplyโฏarenโtโฏdesigned to keep up with the pace of modern financial operations and trying to manage modern risks with outdated processes is where organisations get exposed. AI-powered fraud is a good exampleโฏwhere finance teams need proactive controls and connected workflows, not retrospective manual checks.โฏ
Progress also depends on how change is led. Clear communication, realistic expectations and a willingness to listen are as important as any platform decision. Digitisation works best whenโฏpositioned as practical support for people,โฏenabling trust and autonomy within clear guardrails,โฏrather thanโฏa disruptive overhaul imposed from the centre.โฏThatโsโฏhow you create sustainable buy-in, even with limited technical depth.
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